Explore stress-related exhaustion, the teachings in Gene Key 52, and how to approach restoring the well-being in your business.
Jas and Alex are back for Season 6! Ready to discuss the wisdoms gained from experiencing the yin and yang side of burnout. In this episode, Jas brings you into her relationship with burnout as a 3rd Line Profile in Human Design. She weaves a basket, connecting the stress-related exhaustion she’s experienced as an entrepreneur with the knowledge she’s gained from Gene Key 52.
Jas and Alex reflect on how choosing to design a business to custom fit your natural Authority can remedy the non-typical symptoms that show up when building a business in an unsustainable way. This episode opens up a holistic & more personalized approach to restoring Founder wellbeing - physically, mentally & spiritually.
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Jasmine Nnenna
Host
00:03
This is Erah Society and you are listening to the Counter Cultural Podcast. Hello and welcome back to the podcast. We are now in season six, which is pretty wild that we have been doing this this long. I have Alex back with me this season. I asked him what does he want to do this season and he said I just want to be a presence of deep listening. So here he is and it was really funny listening to some of the episodes from last season and he's just there in the background just with his sacral sounds. So we thought why not? It's also really nice for me because I get something to respond to and he gets to be a presence of deep listening. So welcome back. It's so nice to be rested and to come with fresh ears and a fresh voice to speak about topics. We have a full season ahead of us with some really amazing guests that we can't wait to share with you.
01:24
But to kick off this first episode of season six, I wanted to talk about burnout, and I know that this is a really big topic and it might have already hit its pinnacle, but I think that there's still some more nuances and layers that we can dig into before we kind of toss this topic to the corner, and what I wanted to share is about two types of burnout, instead of the one that keeps being talked about, and seeing how we can start to assess where we are and take honest attention. To assess where we are honestly Inventory Inventory, yeah and to take inventory of where we're at. So I want to start with my experience and honestly, it frustrates me a little bit to even have to like share the story. But as a third line, I feel like I go and I experiment and experience these things and then come back and share it with the collective. And you guys have already heard me talk about back in 2022 or late 2021, early 2022, when I had a whole bunch of health issues come up and it actually turned out to be stress and burnout.
02:48
Well, this time around I was still battling with those same health issues. Off and on, some months I would feel super great I would feel, you know so in my power and in high energy, and then other months I would feel so deeply low and have like bouts of depression, but also bouts of panic attacks, and just my health just kept fluctuating up and down, up and down. I also have Pluto going through my sixth house. Thank God it's about to leave in, like the next two days, and it has taught me a huge lesson on the health of our body and founder wellbeing, which is this kind of phrase that I coined after my first round with burnout, but now it feels so much more pertinent and important and so close to home after the second round of burnout.
03:40
So I want to share with you the things that I've walked away from, because I feel like no one was telling me this that there are multiple ways that burnout can look. It's not just going to look like you're tired and you're heavily fatigued, and maybe your body's coming up with these different symptoms. So I want to bring your attention to gene key 52. Gene key 52 is really amazing because most of the gene keys are very personal in our chart, but gene key 52 is a very collective energy. It is part of the entire channel, the 52 9 from the sacral to the root, or I should say from the root to the sacral, and 52, the shadow of 52 is stress, and it's not just our own individual stress, it's actually the collective stress.
04:32
So our auras are so big that one, when two people are in the same room, their auras are touching and automatically we are being conditioned by all the things that are going on in that other person and vice versa, we're conditioning them and there's two types of shadows in this 52. There's two types of shadows and all the gene keys, but this one there's a repressive and a reactive nature. So the reactive nature of stress and burnout is actually a deep type of exhaustion that's driven by fear, and that's the burnout that we are always talking about in the collective, when people are like oh, I've been working too hard, I've been working too much, I haven't been taking enough time for myself, I don't like my job, I don't like my work, I'm getting sick. That's that. That's the first type of burnout that we're always talking about.
Alex Verville
Host
05:26
Would you consider also the notion of like?
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
05:29
hustle.
Alex Verville
Host
05:31
Like I keep going grind. Absolutely, is that that?
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
05:34
Absolutely. The hustle and grind is the reactive nature and you have the shadow and I would say that it's the Yang. It's the Yang burnout.
05:43
It's the Yang stress. It's a very masculine presenting stress, which is the one that we always talk about in society. But the one that I have recently experienced and I'm just now coming out on the other side of is this more Yin, repressive burnout. And I know that that doesn't make sense. Initially, when you think about burnout, you don't think how can you burn out from being too Yin? You can, and it's actually an atrophying it's not quite a like dissolving of energy in the way that that the Yang reactive burnout is. This is, if you don't use it, you lose it type of energy. You have a muscle and you're not using it, you're not working, you're not making it work, you're not strengthening it, you're going to lose it.
06:31
And what I noticed was that, because I had burned out in the typical Yang way, it created a deep fear inside of me that I didn't want to burn out again. So I changed my life to completely be super Yin, like no alarms. You know all the things that triggered that high stress, adrenal burnout. On the Yang side, I tried to completely dissipate and didn't think like, oh, maybe I should find this middle path. It was just automatically running away from the thing that hurt me, and I think that's what we all do. We create, not that we create, but we experience something and our initial responses. I don't want anything to do with that, I'm going to go completely to the other side but what we fail to realize is that too much of a good thing is also bad. It can also create a lot of health issues because it's imbalanced.
07:31
And so now I'm experiencing what atrophy feels like, not using my voice, not using my energy, not using my creative force or my expression, and it's another type of burnout. I'm burned out. The same way. It's like what? Okay, this is a deeper lesson than I anticipated. I thought that the lesson was just like don't work too much, curve your addiction to working. And now it's like curb your addiction to relaxation, because that can also completely just suck and drain the life out of your life, out of your life, out of your creativity, especially as a sacred being, especially as someone who's sacred response is the 52.9. Like, of course, I'm going to get deep life lessons around that channel and deep life lessons around burnout and stress.
Alex Verville
Host
08:31
Yeah, I mean it was funny because, in anticipation of this episode.
08:35
I was looking back at the journal and you know, in 2023, you wrote an article called Rebuilding a Business After Burnout. You actually cited both the reactive nature, which you had already gone through, and then the repressive nature, which you didn't think you were going through. But actually you say symptoms of burnout and this repressive nature are sneaky, they slowly drain the body of life, force, energy and often masquerade as, and then feelings of inadequacy, afflicted apprehension, little to no momentum, spiraling shame, complete mind chaos. And I just think that's wild, because when, would you say, you consciously realized that you were experiencing the repressive type of burnout? When did I write that? February of 2023.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
09:28
And that was that February was the first month that I did a sacred surrender. So I would say I probably started to consciously feel the repressive nature around May, april, may when I was just like man. Just a itty bitty phone, yeah like just the feeling of like not having any momentum, and it's so wild to me that I can write something like that and it's like a fore foreshadowing. That's my inner vision.
Alex Verville
Host
10:00
Exactly yeah, it's foreshadowing, it is. That's what inner vision is yeah, yeah.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
10:05
It's like a foreshadowing, but I told you the other day that, like my inner vision doesn't have a timing. It doesn't know when the time just sees something and then it will try to convey it. So I'm happy I wrote that and we'll link that for you in the show notes. If you guys want to read that article, it's still obviously relevant. So yeah, that's so wild because February is when I did, when I did my first sacred surrender.
10:33
And actually that sacred surrender is finally in the tea house now. I wanted to share it in February but I never. I didn't get a sacred response to do that until last month, December, Uh-huh, December so like almost a year after I wrote that article is when I finally shared, like how to move through a sacred surrender so that you don't, you know, burn out like I did. But I guess I had to experience both sides of the coin in order to give you a full reflection. So, yeah, I think there's it's so weird because there's some parts of me that are like, damn it, I just wish I didn't have to go through that. But also that I know it's what creates the depth and the intimacy and the acknowledgement that I know what you're going through, If you are working through both sides of burnout the atrophied or the, the reactive, that the repressive or the reactive because they're both draining, they are both equally draining and you have seen me, you know, in tears on the floor from the mind chaos, just the immense anxiety, the immense anxiety that the mind creates when we are in the feelings of inadequacy, when we're in the feelings of shame, when we're spiraling, when we feel like nothing is working out for us.
11:55
We're not feeling that momentum and I actually think that the repressive burnout is so much more violent on the psyche and the soul than than the reactive one.
12:10
Cause the reactive one is is it's so much more physical, yeah, it's so much more on the body, you know, which is why I ended up in the hospital like doing all those tests.
12:20
It's so much more in the body and then your mind makes you feel like you can take more control over that. But then when you try to use the mind against itself on the repressive side, on the more yin side, it it fights back, it attacks back because it's not, it's not your body that's burnt out, it's your soul, it's, it's the fact that you have nothing, you have no purpose and it's just. It just goes to show you how purpose is actually the foundation of our well-being to understand where we fit into the collective, to understand where we fit in to the world, what our function is, why we're here. Us not knowing that can create the same amount of health issues and a lot of mental health issues. I think, because I have experienced more mental health issues on the repressive side than I did on the reactive side. I've experienced way more mental fatigue, way, way more depression, way more anxiety on the yin side than I did on the yang side. The yang side.
13:26
I just felt like man, I never have enough time in the day to do all the things that I want to do, whereas this was like, wow, I. I feel like God's not with me. I feel like I'm alone in this. I feel like I don't know where I belong. I feel like I'm isolated from the world. And Richard says you know the Richard Rudd, the. I say Richard, like we're friends. Or Richard Rudd, who's the author of the jingki, says that the quickest way to kind of get back into life when you're in the repressive modus is to come back to be of service, turn your energy back online and say how can I share what I have with others so that I can feel the same way that I do? I can share with others so that I can feel like I'm part of this world. And so that brings me into the next point that I want to share, which is what can we do when we are in these, these sides of burnout, like whether you're in the repressive side or the reactive side.
14:34
And the question that I kept asking myself obviously, because this entire year in 2023, except for January is when I was doing sacred surrender. Really, I have studied human design for almost seven years, I've only actually experimented with my sacred. I've experimented with other parts of my design, but with my actual authority only in 2023. Which is kind of mind-blowing, as I say that out loud. But I do wonder how many other people have experimented with their authority, not from their mind, but in their lives? How many people who know their design are actually living their authority? Not living their design, not living their profile or their centers or their this or their that gates, da, da, da, da, da, da, da da. All that stuff is mind. You know mind-laws and gist. I'm talking about you making decisions with your authority only in 2023.
15:33
So I had to transition and redesign the model of my business to fit my authority and I'm still doing that. Every single day. You're asking me questions like do you really want to do that? I'm like uh-uh, oh, my God, I don't want to do that. Like what are people going to think? Or am I going to hurt someone's feelings? Or you know, you have the mind really starts to. You start to dismantle the mind. I think that's the biggest thing. So maybe it's a blessing, in disguise, that I now experience the repressive side which was in the psyche and in the soul, so that I can come back online with my true sovereignty, with my true authority, and say, uh-uh, I love you, it's not personal, but it's a no for me, and that I can feel the energy just come, coming back online in my own body.
16:24
So I want to ask you, how can you begin to transition or redesign the model of your business to fit your authority, to fit your natural talents, to fit your natural abilities, instead of compromising yourself and your health for others and maybe you're like me, maybe you need to compromise yourself and your health for others in order to see the other side. That's totally fine. But if you're not like me, if you're not a third line and you're just like, no, I'm just gonna take Jazz's advice and just not even go that route. Where can you begin to make the refinements, to make the adjustments? Is it in your offers? Is it in the business model itself? Is it in you offering a payment plan where you don't really want to be doing that? Is it in you trying to do every single thing in your business and you need to hire, or you need to redirect those tasks to someone else?
17:19
Because I know that we have a lot of tips and tricks around the reactive or the yang side of the burnout, but maybe let's talk a little bit about some tips and tricks for the yin side.
17:31
I think for me I needed to take some more responsibility in the business, like I'm doing the finances now, and that has brought so much more surge of energy into my body and into my life, instead of just delegating, because I think I delegated too hard when I burnt out on the masculine side that I was like okay, take everything off my plate, I'm not gonna do anything, I'm just gonna rest, and sometimes you need that. But I think that you need a reminder to come back and say are you rested now? Okay, what are some things that you would like to take back on so that you can keep walking that middle path, instead of so stretched out to the left or so stretched out to the right? So for me, it's now taking on tasks and then making sure that those are the tasks that my sacral actually has energy to do, instead of just like piling things back on.
18:29
The other thing that really came to me in the reflection, as I was doing the sacral surrender and really trying to tap back into my authority, is this idea of not self success. Not self success because normally we talk about the not self of our type. So if you're a sacral being, your not self is frustration. If you're a manifestor, your not self is anger.
18:56
If you're a projector, your not self is bitterness. If you are a reflector, your not self is disappointment. But obviously we're entrepreneurs or artists or creatives and so we deal really in the realm of the material world and this idea of chasing not self success. We're always chasing success, but is it actually your not self success or is it your true form of success? Are you actually making clean money? Are you actually setting the standards for yourself and for your business that you want to be there? Because not all money is good money and we know that from a conscious entrepreneurship standpoint and that we don't actually work for money.
19:41
Like money is one of the easiest forms of success. It's a low hanging fruit, it's having a lot of money doesn't show your success. We know that as conscious entrepreneurs, we know that money is not the end all be all of anything. It just shows us that oh okay, we're playing this material game, we're here, it's like Mario Brothers. But it says nothing about our soul's experience, it says nothing about our intimacy, it says nothing about our compassion or our empathy. It can be a tool to convey our conduit, to spread those characteristics Absolutely. To connect with Air Society's exclusive content on slow business, self-awareness and spirituality, subscribe to our newsletter and to become a more nourished entrepreneur, building a business that is both prosperous and purposeful. Join us inside of Air Society's T-House.
Alex Verville
Host
20:48
I mean, everything you're saying reminds me again of a quote that I actually wrote down from the same article. But when you said doing all of the incredible things, you're here learning to decode its messages, like our body right, like as this antenna that's traversing Earth, but most of the messages that we translate, you say, get lost because they're being filtered through an inquired sense of self. Hmm, a bar persona that at one point you had to accept as true, to be loved, accepted or praised absolutely that person.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
21:20
That's a not quiet sense.
Alex Verville
Host
21:22
Yeah, quiet sense of self. Money is a very easy. Oh, I'm being affirmed, you know, like my true self was being affirmed. But unless you, like you said this experience burnout, or let's say you are gonna say I want to Really Figure out what my strategy is, you know. I mean then play with it and figure out what is my actual baseline. I'd be hard hard to get to those other levels of oh yeah, absolutely.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
21:48
I think that's why we chase money, because it's the only form of success that the collective society has shown us that we can wear as a badge of honor. Society doesn't say, wow, you're so compassionate and then you get to wear that as a badge of honor, or you're so loving girl scouts. Exactly. But if you have money or you have Statuses of wealth, let's say a car, a home, maxed out, 401k, dada.
Alex Verville
Host
22:19
Dada, dada.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
22:19
Dada, you get to wear those as a badge of honor that you somehow made it in this world. I think obviously that's changing. Now with the state of the world. We're starting to ask deeper questions and we want to know more. But we do have to reflect on what part of us is making that money. Is it the part of us that is driven by fear? Is it the part of us that's driven by inadequacy? Is it the part of us that's driven by our mind? Even though we say that we're all trying to be conscious and live in our design and Make decisions from our authority? Is the money that's coming in truly from our authority or is it coming in from the not-self desired of success? And only you can answer that, and it's a process. It's not like a oh, shit, yeah, that's me, I think it's all of us, but it's in layers and we're Delayering this.
23:09
It's a step-by-step approach, a season-to-season approach. Who you were last season is not who you are this season, and that's why it's always good to come back and Really reflect and assess where are you in relation to your business, in relation to the vision, in relation to your mission, in relation to your Purpose, in relation to your function. You're just it's, it's very meta, to the, to the next degree, to the next degree, to the next degree, to the next degree. And if you're not checking, like long math or long division, you're gonna miss some things. You're gonna think that, oh well, I have a great product or service and it's really helping all these people, but then over here on this side maybe you're not paying yourself because it's out of quote-unquote service and that's like a whole another topic, you know, in terms of service, and I have a lot of Thoughts that I eventually want to share around service and how that word has just been completely perverted and yeah chopped up and Weaponized and used as a fear tactic.
24:08
It's like just by you breathing, you're being of service.
24:12
So you don't have to try to Contort yourself in this very Formatted way and say, oh, I want my business to be of service. It's like Just by you being here, just by you being aware, just by you being noticing the space you're taking up, noticing who's sitting next to you, that that's of deep service, and you and I talked about this, I think, yesterday or two days ago, about my thoughts on service and how true service is being able to be a conduit, you know, used by God, used by spirit, but it's very rare that we're actually in that Place, yeah, in that place, to be used like that. Anyways, so clean money and not self-success. It's just something that I really had to start thinking about that, although I made a lot of money, I, when I experienced the Yang burnout, a lot of it was driven by my not self-desires, my fear of Not having financial stability, not having financial security, and it's funny that you can still have all these fears and still make a lot of money Like that's not.
Alex Verville
Host
25:25
That's why it's like you said, it's low hanging fruit.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
25:27
Yeah, it's low hanging yeah.
Alex Verville
Host
25:29
It's. It's not the thing behind the thing, that's behind the thing, and that's really the last Three weeks, I would say, as your burnout has like, really, really shown itself, like in physical symptoms and and, just like you, said just Sadness you know, yeah, just emotional, yeah, emotional sadness, those things have come out like yeah how your definition of like getting to people to like you it's completely different than mine, but you still have some sort of not-self theme of wanting people to like you.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
26:00
What does that mean? Yeah, and.
Alex Verville
Host
26:01
I, I honestly in ten years of marriage like with how you are like as a third line Is just in who you are like, never really caring what people think you know I yeah, because you know I'm a very confident person.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
26:15
Yeah, and I know that deep down inside. But you never know what's a lurking behind right, the shadows and the doors of your mind. And if you can pay attention to your emotions and to what's showing up in your life instead of Continuously pushing it down, you'll start to see oh oh, I didn't know that, I felt like that. And Then when it comes up, you know it comes up in these huge kind of waves because they've been in your body for so long. And and something that Mary Ann Winneger has said in her talks and I'll link that below I love that woman. She's. I don't even know she knows that I exist, but she's amazing.
26:57
I'm gonna link the the video on YouTube when she's talking about the mind and how the mind Tells you the same thing over and over again, in different words and different verbs and different colors and textures, but all it does is watch you. It watches you. Watch is your life. You don't even know that it's watching you and all it does is tell you about your undefined centers or where you've been conditioned so that what, what I was sharing with you around, not feeling loved by the group. Right, that's all solar, undefined solar plexus stuff. My mind never tells me stuff about my brilliance or my intelligence Never, because it knows it that it I don't, I don't feel anything. I have a defined head and, ajna, what are you gonna tell me about that?
27:49
But it tells me things about my throat. Oh, you're gonna be misunderstood, you're not gonna be heard, you're not gonna be listened to. That's all open throat, not self-stuff. It tells me, oh, you're gonna die, you're gonna get sick, you're gonna. You know all all these psychosomatic things. That's all spleen, undefined spleen stuff. It tells me, oh, you're not gonna have that financial security that you want. You know, you're gonna have to work really hard for that money. That's all undefined heart stuff.
28:19
It doesn't tell me the things that I'm actually confident about. It tells me the things that I have not Conditioning about, the things that I have been conditioned by the world about, and that's the same thing that's telling everyone. So think about that for a minute. All the things that your mind tells you, and it just runs on autopilot. It's literally just telling you stuff from your not-self theme, which is absolutely wild. So don't believe anything that your mind tells you, mary, and tells. It says that all the time. It's like don't believe anything, so only you can Make that call about if your money is clean or not.
Alex Verville
Host
28:58
Yeah, well, and this actually leads me to something that I was curious if you wanted to share, because basically in In the article you also talk about how we then go on to wage these wars, basically with things that kind of stem or are connected in the same grouping as our mind, like the mind, the ego, like these things. But I wanted to maybe ask you if you wanted to share kind of what you have helped me realize, like what the ego's actual function is. You share it then? Well, I might not say it as well.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
29:35
Don't worry, I'll correct you. It's as articulate as you.
Alex Verville
Host
29:40
Well, I think from our experiment, the overall message in point or purpose of the ego is to separate, like what's going on in any given moment, to separate itself from that, like it has an opinion or a voice or whatever, a reaction to something, even if it's good, if it's bad. It's like we need to separate from this. You know what I mean. So that's the overall theme, and so for me, the inner dialogue now has always been like what are you trying to separate me from? And then it's an awareness of the things that I am aware of that are either my not self or my authentic coding. And then I can talk to it and say, oh, we don't need to separate from that. Why are you afraid? Yeah, like, what's the trigger there? And I thought, maybe I don't feel comfortable. The history that you shared of human design and how the heart center came out of the G-center.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
30:41
Of the G-center.
Alex Verville
Host
30:42
yeah, yeah, like as its first layer of body protection kind of which, if you want to share that, that's just fun.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
30:47
Yeah, no, I think. First of all, I like the way that you said all that and actually what I want to respond to is I think the majority of us always look at the ego as like why are you doing this to me? Like we always approach it with that kind of voice. But if we think about, if we think about the ego's purpose and Alan Watts said this you know the ego is there and the reason for its existence is that you and I will go out to dinner and the ego ensures that I feed myself and not you.
31:18
So separation isn't always a negative thing. Separation is to create. Separation can also create intimacy. You know, it's like, if we are too enmeshed, what do we call that? Codependency? So we need the ego to separate us at some.
31:35
You know, some time, some environment, some points in order, in order for us to see ourselves as two souls that can then come and unify and say oh wow, we're in a relationship, we love each other. If, if we didn't have the ego doing its job of separation, you and I wouldn't be married, we wouldn't be able to have the experience of two separate entities coming together and having a marriage and having a relationship. So I think sometimes we approach the ego with so much anger and so much frustration and so much bitterness and so much disappointment, when actually it has a very neutral job, which is to separate, and the soul has this job to unify, and so it has to be a balance between the ego takes a turn and the soul takes a turn, and the ego takes a turn and the soul takes a turn and all we're doing all day, every day, is unifying and separating, unifying and separating.
32:31
And it's actually a really cool filtration system. That's actually what happens when you have two characteristics or two tasks One is called separation and one is called unifying. That's actually a filtration system and that's what we are. That's what our vessels are, our filtration systems. We are filtering the messages that we're getting all around us and saying do I want to unify with that message? Do I want to unify with that feeling? Do I want to unify with that person or do I want to separate? And separation, like I said earlier, I wonder if we can reframe that and say, ah, separation is actually creating unification. In this moment, I get to take care of this person. I won't be able to take care of them if I'm not separate from them.
33:16
Another thing that comes to my mind is like the energies between Leo and Aquarius. Okay, aquarius is very much about the group, like let's just all be together, let's just all be one, let's not have any differences, and Leo's like no, I'm a star, no, you guys sit over there, I'll sit over here, you watch me, I'll entertain you, and it'll just be a vibe. Okay, those are both great qualities, but the shadows are like Leo, watch me all the time. I don't care if you're a star, I don't care about anyone else but myself. And Aquarius is like no, you either are with the group or you're against us. It's like the rebellious. You know nature of not having that harmonics in the community.
33:59
So everything in balance and I think that's the point of this entire episode is that I have learned that the middle path is the way for me. The middle path in everything in life and business, in health, it's the middle path. You can't go so far to one side and so far to the other side. You really have to be aware and continuously check. It's a continuous check, checks and balances, checks and balances, checks and balances, and that creates a really high standard of life, which is what I want for myself and what I pray for everyone else. So where are you burning out and how can you begin to assess the parts of your business and your life that are no longer serving you and make the necessary adjustments or refinements so that you know also what kind of help that you need? I think the other thing that I noticed is that this can't be fixed with like a band-aid. You really have to assess and understand. Where am I?
Alex Verville
Host
35:01
orient yourself.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
35:04
In the honesty, like use where you're at as a map, and you know those maps that have the stars, like you are here.
35:11
Be honest about where you are so that you can go and make whatever. That next investment or purchase that you need is in a healer or in, maybe allopathic in an allopathic medical journey or in a homeopathic medical journey, or maybe you need a vacation or maybe, like you really have to be honest about where you're at so that you can assess the burnout needs. Do you need more rest because you've been in so reactive, or do you need more action because you've been in such a repressive mode? The final thing that I want to say about this is the way that entrepreneurship is painted today, as, obviously, we all live in the digital world and so we see a bunch of these like quick wins and so we automatically think that that's how our own personal entrepreneurship journey is going to go.
36:05
But one thing that I know for sure for me is that this type of entrepreneurship, this type of business creation, is a marathon and, if you're lucky, you get to taste all the different textures and patterns of creating a very healthy and holistic business over a long period of time. Obviously, if you want to have a very quick experience of being an entrepreneur, you can absolutely do that, and you can do it in a healthy way. Like we're going to be talking about bridge businesses and bridge offers in the season, which is going to be a fun episode, so it's possible to do that in a very healthy and holistic way. But I know that a lot of you are here for the long haul and you're looking at doing business this way from a very generational standpoint and perspective. Like this is new paradigm. It's a new paradigm now that we're in.
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We're not going to go back to what we were doing before, even if it takes some people a while to catch up to what we're doing. So I just want to remind you that if you don't have health, you don't have anything, and that's why this is the first episode is to really set the foundation that founder well-being is the hidden gem behind a conscious entrepreneur, behind an organically profitable business, behind a sustainable and regenerative business model. Everything really sits on the foundation of the founder being well in mind body, spirit and beyond. And there are so many different ways that we can care for ourselves outside of self care, like deep, deep care.
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And that's why I always say care for your energy first, because I know firsthandedly what that feels like when you have all these big visions and dreams and all these things that you want to do, but you literally do not have the energy to do it. You're either completely exhausted or atrophied and it will take a bit of energy to bring yourself out of those places. So just be gentle with yourself if you're experiencing that and know that the middle path is calling you, no matter what side you're on, if you're on the Yang side, the reactive stress side, or if you're on the Yin side, the repressive stress side, that you are journeying towards the middle, where, number one, you're not chasing not self success, you're chasing your signature success, the money that is correct for you and your business. Maybe you're not supposed to be a millionaire. Is that even what you want? Or is that the not self saying that?
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oh, I need to be a millionaire, Because I know for me, like at the height of my highest months, I never once set a goal. I have never set any money goals ever. I have never said oh yeah, I want to make 50,000 this month. Never Like. It's so bizarre that I even started doing that, and that was from the conditioning that I was seeing in the digital space not once. So that was incorrect for me. Maybe setting those goals are correct for you, so you would you need to know your chart.
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You need to study your chart. You need to know your centers, you need to know your undefined centers. You need to number one, follow your authority. That's the thing that matters the most. Because if you were to ask me right now, like you know jazz, do you want to make a million dollars? Mm-hmm, yeah, it's like, yeah, whatever Do you want to make?
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a million dollars, mm-hmm, yeah, it's like uh-huh, whatever it's. You know what it feels like. The translation is yeah, it's going to happen anyway, so why would you put your focus on that? It's like put your focus on the things that you want to really like, put your energy and your sacred behind, yeah, yeah, don't waste your sacred energy on a million dollars. That's, it's going to come anyway. Yeah, and then, and then the mind just goes huh, yeah, okay, yeah.
Alex Verville
Host
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But I think that well, at least a little also tidbit for me now personally that I got from listening to you right now today is looking at my undefined centers and like how that mind chatter goes to. Like goes to my mind, like what is it saying Like oh yeah yeah, like you can't do this. Oh yeah, yeah, it's like that's, that's a, that's a. I wanted to highlight that because that's a that's a gem.
Jasmine Nnenna
Host
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Oh yeah, that's man, free yourself. Free yourself from that and just do whatever the hell you want to do. It's your business anyway. And know that you can find success in anything that you do, as long as it's correct for you and you're making decisions and moving from your true authority and your true sovereignty. So we'll link everything for you in the show notes. I hope you enjoy this episode and we'll see you in the next one.